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Posted 25 September 2017 - 08:09 AM

So.... has anyone else seen DSC?

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Then I wonít get too spoilerish. Iíll just say a few quick things

* Looks like a feature film (I mean that in a very good way). This is one of the major advantages to a 13 instead-of-26 episode run; more money per episode. Itís all on the screen. This could be the best-looking ST ever (including the movies). Well worth the $8-$10 a month for CBSAA (the price of a single movie ticket in the US).

* Nice use of ST sound FX (both from TOS and TNG) and millions of other little references are cleverly (and organically) woven into dialogue, without feeling like clumsy fan-service.

* Vivid characters. I was surprised how engaged I was in their stories by the end of the first 2 episodes.

* Commander Michael Burnham is very much the lead of this show; despite fears to the contrary. This will not be a captain-centric show. Sonequa Martin-Green is terrific.

* Love Saru. Doug Jones nailed it; as I assumed he would. I predict he will be this showís Data (not in personality so much as popularity).

* Despite a grim opener, there is still that sense of awe and wonder of deep space travel that I havenít felt from ST in a very long time (possibly since TMP).

* The opening title sequence is very different and I applaud it for its smart use of ST iconography without resorting to generic flyby shots and ship porn. More Westworld than ST (and thatís okay as I love both). Well done!

* I liked it better than the three Abramsí movies. And thatís BIG for me, since I really enjoyed ST09 and STB. But this one has more of classic STís Ďsoulí in it.

* Much more consistency with the prime timeline than I ever expected.

* The spartan look of the shipís interiors subliminally echo back to the black and metallic interior look of the Enterprise under Chris Pike.

* The uniforms look really snazzy; somewhere between ENT and TOS (Kelvinverse, anyway).


I wonít say anymore till more on GBBS have a chance to see it, but... I think we have a winner here, folks.
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Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:31 AM

Thatís excellent news to hear. I think new blood will definitely help the series. Voyager and Enterprise felt tired before they began because they seemed to of put too many rules in place to take the show in to new territory.
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Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:51 PM

View Postp0is0n0us, on 25 September 2017 - 11:31 AM, said:

Thatís excellent news to hear. I think new blood will definitely help the series. Voyager and Enterprise felt tired before they began because they seemed to of put too many rules in place to take the show in to new territory.


Well, if youíre up for spoilers... :naughty3dg:

https://musingsofami...exit-spacedock/
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Posted 26 September 2017 - 09:44 AM

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Well, if youíre up for spoilers... :naughty3dg:/>

https://musingsofami...exit-spacedock/


I skimmed the top and bottom of the review as I don't want to read the spoilers :)
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Posted 26 September 2017 - 09:32 PM

View Postp0is0n0us, on 26 September 2017 - 09:44 AM, said:

I skimmed the top and bottom of the review as I don't want to read the spoilers :)/>


Wise.

Hope you get a chance to see DSC sooner than later. :)
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Posted 27 September 2017 - 09:07 AM

I'm still typing my official review - and distracting myself here over a coffee :P/> - but personally... I loved it.

Pretty bold to open with the Klingons, good introduction to Burnham, then diving right into a chatty and familiar crew who were out there having fun instead of shouting out the usual lines we've heard regurgitated non stop (looking at you, Voyager!) to sound technical. From there we had tension, drama, more tension, great character work, tension, fresh dialogue, tention again, action and effect that complimented the story.... and did I mention the tension?

Overall - THIS was the series I'd been waiting for ever since Jake Sisko stood solemnly at that window. Trek's always been at it's best when the story is of cooperation and hope. Discovery looks like it knows that, but is also well aware that you don't just say "Hey, utpoia!" like Next Gen did - you tear the world down and let that hope guide to a climax. Burnham's path to redemption starts with a foot into darkness, but I'd be willing to bet all the latinum on Ferenginar that it ends a beacon of hope.

On a complete sidenote, David Mack explained about the uniforms in his novel....

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 05:01 PM

View PostI Voted Baltar, on 27 September 2017 - 09:07 AM, said:

I'm still typing my official review - and distracting myself here over a coffee :P/>/> - but personally... I loved it.

Pretty bold to open with the Klingons, good introduction to Burnham, then diving right into a chatty and familiar crew who were out there having fun instead of shouting out the usual lines we've heard regurgitated non stop (looking at you, Voyager!) to sound technical. From there we had tension, drama, more tension, great character work, tension, fresh dialogue, tention again, action and effect that complimented the story.... and did I mention the tension?

Overall - THIS was the series I'd been waiting for ever since Jake Sisko stood solemnly at that window. Trek's always been at it's best when the story is of cooperation and hope. Discovery looks like it knows that, but is also well aware that you don't just say "Hey, utpoia!" like Next Gen did - you tear the world down and let that hope guide to a climax. Burnham's path to redemption starts with a foot into darkness, but I'd be willing to bet all the latinum on Ferenginar that it ends a beacon of hope.

On a complete sidenote, David Mack explained about the uniforms in his novel....

Spoiler


Works for me!


Iíd read that the new DSC novel explains that, and I want to read it too. It also has explanations for the differences in ship design (which Iíd always attributed to design inputs from hundreds of engineers across hundreds of Federation member planets).

And yes, I agree with you on DSC; it many ways it feels like the Ďspiritual cousiní to DS9... gritty & dark, but always optimistic. I was hooked right from the beginning.
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Posted 02 October 2017 - 06:22 AM

My SPOILER-HEAVY review of last nightís Star Trek Discovery 1.3: ďContext is for KingsĒ:

https://musingsofami...t-is-for-kings/

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