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Captain Taurus, on 20 June 2011 - 05:53 PM, said:

Why don't you give it a try before you give up so quickly.

Oh, it's in jest; but honestly? They're going to make the movie they're going to make with/without fan input.
The pilot's already been shot anyway (it's in post-production, I understand). Might as well see what they've done before I start firing off letters to anyone....

[Captain Taurus]

obsolete toaster, on 20 June 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

Oh, it's in jest; but honestly? They're going to make the movie they're going to make with/without fan input.
The pilot's already been shot anyway (it's in post-production, I understand). Might as well see what they've done before I start firing off letters to anyone....

Absolutely, I agree. Better save some of that venom that you have been using on Green Lantern and use it on the pilot when it airs. LOL

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Captain Taurus, on 21 June 2011 - 08:32 PM, said:

Absolutely, I agree. Better save some of that venom that you have been using on Green Lantern and use it on the pilot when it airs. LOL

My venom sacks are DRY after Green Lantern....

[Captain Taurus]

obsolete toaster, on 21 June 2011 - 11:46 PM, said:

My venom sacks are DRY after Green Lantern....

Ha ha...something tells me, you have a reserve in there somewhere. I think you have some great insight, just I would phrase it more positively than you would. LOL. Talk to you later buddy.

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Captain Taurus, on 22 June 2011 - 01:03 AM, said:

Ha ha...something tells me, you have a reserve in there somewhere. I think you have some great insight, just I would phrase it more positively than you would. LOL. Talk to you later buddy.

Someone has to act as the yang to your yin!

Might as well be a mean old toaster....

[Captain Taurus]

obsolete toaster, on 22 June 2011 - 10:19 AM, said:

Someone has to act as the yang to your yin!

Might as well be a mean old toaster....

That is true...I do need someone to be a Yang. So you are the perfect candidate.

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Captain Taurus, on 22 June 2011 - 01:06 PM, said:

That is true...I do need someone to be a Yang. So you are the perfect candidate.

Uh... wait a second; was I just brilliantly insulted?

[Captain Taurus]

obsolete toaster, on 22 June 2011 - 01:57 PM, said:

Uh... wait a second; was I just brilliantly insulted?

Now would I do that to you? *CT starts whistling and looking up to the sky trying to act nonchalant.*

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Captain Taurus, on 22 June 2011 - 02:45 PM, said:

Now would I do that to you? *CT starts whistling and looking up to the sky trying to act nonchalant.*

You cheeky monkey, you!

[ensign edwards]

Trust me, as someone who's done a lot of this, these networks do not listen to fan input. And honestly, to a certain extent, that's a good thing. We're far too fractious, and not all of our ideas are good. That doesn't mean they shouldn't take a hint when the vast majority of the fanbase agrees on something (*cough* Nice Cortez *cough*), but letting fans decide the overall direction of a show is just never going to work.

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ensign edwards, on 23 June 2011 - 08:48 AM, said:

Trust me, as someone who's done a lot of this, these networks do not listen to fan input. And honestly, to a certain extent, that's a good thing. We're far too fractious, and not all of our ideas are good. That doesn't mean they shouldn't take a hint when the vast majority of the fanbase agrees on something (*cough* Nice Cortez *cough*), but letting fans decide the overall direction of a show is just never going to work.

Reminds me of what Nicholas Meyer said about fans dictating the direction of the Star Trek movie franchise (this was in 1982, when fans were in an uproar over killing off Spock); "I don't think that a bunch of people can say, 'I think this should happen' because then you get a movie that looks like something stamped on office furniture."

He also said (on the same topic), "It's like the guy who crossed an Idaho potato with a sponge; tasted horrible, but it sure held a lot of gravy!"

I admit, we BSG fans can be a very vocal lot; and a passionate one as well. The producers would be well-served to listen a little bit (read fan forums; get an overall feel of the mood and hunger level), but if they really feel an instinct is good (like say, making Starbuck female) then they have to listen to their gut. It's just that from what I've seen and read, they aren't really approaching B&C from a creative place; with green screen sets, a seemingly miscast Adama, Cylon snowsnakes, and a bunch of other discontinuous stuff, it feels like they're making a cheap knock off that's greedily trying to cash in on lingering fan sentiment. If that's where it's coming from?
I'd rather that they not even try.

But to be fair, I'd like to see the pilot they've already shot before I decide for myself whether it's something that I feel is worthy to the BSG legacy (and sadly, most of Caprica did not feel like a legitimate heir to BSG, IMO; although those final five episodes REALLY turned things around... it's as though the producer's creative juices really began flowing once there was a fire lit under their a$$es).

[Captain Taurus]

obsolete toaster, on 22 June 2011 - 03:10 PM, said:

You cheeky monkey, you!

I am a cheeky monkey! woo hoo! Sorry buddy!

[Captain Taurus]

ensign edwards, on 23 June 2011 - 08:48 AM, said:

Trust me, as someone who's done a lot of this, these networks do not listen to fan input. And honestly, to a certain extent, that's a good thing. We're far too fractious, and not all of our ideas are good. That doesn't mean they shouldn't take a hint when the vast majority of the fanbase agrees on something (*cough* Nice Cortez *cough*), but letting fans decide the overall direction of a show is just never going to work.

It is not so much giving the fans overall direction of the show but their reaction to the show is vital. If it is overall negative, then the network either has to change direction or cancel the show. They want to make money off of this while they still can. I think they are missing out on so many opportunities to hit on interesting stories that if they had input from fans that were intelligently written, then they will listen.
But you won't know unless you try.

[Cylon-Knight]

"Fans" ... is that too many cooks in the kitchen as it were? You can't please them all. Some classic BSG fans HATE nuBSG, even though, some (like 4 or maybe 5 people ) think the show is good!

How should production companies listen to fans? Facebook? Polls? Seek out a fan base (such as GBBS.com) or ?????

[Captain Taurus]

Cylon-Knight, on 23 June 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

"Fans" ... is that too many cooks in the kitchen as it were? You can't please them all. Some classic BSG fans HATE nuBSG, even though, some (like 4 or maybe 5 people ) think the show is good!

How should production companies listen to fans? Facebook? Polls? Seek out a fan base (such as GBBS.com) or ?????

Well said.

[dsgtdave]

Anyone else just not feeling this? I hope it is good but to be honest, my thoughts have dwindled in past months.

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dsgtdave, on 25 June 2011 - 12:05 AM, said:

Anyone else just not feeling this? I hope it is good but to be honest, my thoughts have dwindled in past months.

To be honest? I'm lukewarm for this one as well. Nothing I see so far excites me. If it succeeds (artistically and in ratings)? Great. If it fails? It'd just reaffirm my concern that it was ill-conceived in the first place. You're not alone, Dave. I love BSG, but that story's been told frankly. And in terms of yet another BSG prequel? Well, after the dismal failure of Caprica (which only got interesting by the endgame) let's just say my heart's not beating any faster for this one...

[dsgtdave]

Ya. I hit a plateau after Caprica when I did a season 4 remake and got seriously burned out. Burned out to the point where I didn't even think about it in any form. Couple that with zero news on B&C and I just don't care at this point.